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    Linux Help! - And personal update :)

    So... a little update following that post about me hating my job. Well, it still blows, but being as I now get to work from home (at a fairly sizeable salary decrease) it's gotten a lot better. I still hold the same management title with more or less the same responsibilities but now I have a lot more freedom. Basically, my day goes morning phone conference, Hon/golf/gym, few emails, done.

    Sooo... to supplement the decrease in salary I have taken on select clients through friends and friends of friends.

    Recently I have been contracted to build a Linux server and I have a few concerns.

    • New hardware, specifically the Intel 5500 chipset, driver supported? (details below)
    • Is it difficult to install SQL on a Linux box?
    • Is VNC the best RDP option (in addition to SSH)?
    • Is it overly difficult to configure DNS? As I have always managed my DNS on a Windows box and need to configure more then 60 external IP's for website use, etc.


    I designed this build with new hardware (Intel 5500 chipset/1366 Slot/DDR3) and noted that Intel provides some Linux driver support but nothing specifically for Debian, the Linux distro I am using. Will this be a problem? Will I be able to get optimal hardware performance out of Debian?

    This build is being overnighted to me so I should have it on Saturday. I need to have it built and configured by Monday.
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    Oh, and why the hell is Debian 5 DVD's big? WTF
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    Less work more hon; feeder

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    Is it just going to be a linux SQL & DNS box?

    No web/php/etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    Is it just going to be a linux SQL & DNS box?

    No web/php/etc?
    Apache as well.
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    I would suggest running xubuntu, it is a debian build with xfce (lightest gui). Current release is 9.04 (under 700mb).

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    Quote Originally Posted by x[cazter] View Post
    So... a little update following that post about me hating my job. Well, it still blows, but being as I now get to work from home (at a fairly sizeable salary decrease) it's gotten a lot better. I still hold the same management title with more or less the same responsibilities but now I have a lot more freedom. Basically, my day goes morning phone conference, Hon/golf/gym, few emails, done.

    Sooo... to supplement the decrease in salary I have taken on select clients through friends and friends of friends.

    Recently I have been contracted to build a Linux server and I have a few concerns.

    • New hardware, specifically the Intel 5500 chipset, driver supported? (details below)
    • Is it difficult to install SQL on a Linux box?
    • Is VNC the best RDP option (in addition to SSH)?
    • Is it overly difficult to configure DNS? As I have always managed my DNS on a Windows box and need to configure more then 60 external IP's for website use, etc.


    I designed this build with new hardware (Intel 5500 chipset/1366 Slot/DDR3) and noted that Intel provides some Linux driver support but nothing specifically for Debian, the Linux distro I am using. Will this be a problem? Will I be able to get optimal hardware performance out of Debian?

    This build is being overnighted to me so I should have it on Saturday. I need to have it built and configured by Monday.
    1. Run ubuntu if you are planning running a linux environment. Ubuntu 8.04, 8.10, and 9.04 (I recommend 9.04, "Jaunty", as it supports the newer kernel) all support 5500, but you should verify against hardware compatibility lists by mobo manufacturer.

    2. No it is not. mysql or postgress work just fine.

    3. I think so, but I never use more than ssh. Who needs a gui on a server?

    4. No. DNS is easy. Get the latest version of BIND and have fun.

    5. Do you have to use Debian? Ubuntu basically sprouted from Debian.
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    Did you get this done or fail ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by x[jbrhymer] View Post
    1. Run ubuntu if you are planning running a linux environment. Ubuntu 8.04, 8.10, and 9.04 (I recommend 9.04, "Jaunty", as it supports the newer kernel) all support 5500, but you should verify against hardware compatibility lists by mobo manufacturer.

    2. No it is not. mysql or postgress work just fine.

    3. I think so, but I never use more than ssh. Who needs a gui on a server?

    4. No. DNS is easy. Get the latest version of BIND and have fun.

    5. Do you have to use Debian? Ubuntu basically sprouted from Debian.
    Appreciate the help but thus far I have been unable to convince them of Ubuntu. Might take a fail at Debian or 5 to get them convinced.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    Did you get this done or fail ?
    Memory didn't come in today :( So it's delayed until tomorrow.
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    remote access: use ssh and screen. Screen gives you a detachable tty session.
    You can use VNC, but how many admin programs require a UI?

    SQL: MySql and postgress. MySql is popular, but postgress has be gaining popularity as it is supposed to be faster and more stable.

    If you have customers involved, you may want to see if they want to use RHEL (Redhat).
    This is not free, but some customers like to feeling that there is a publicly traded US company behind the distribution. RHEL is also the only distribution that can be certified for US government work (NSA has a distribution, but I doubt you would use it). I could be wrong here, but that is what we were told here at work.
    Centos is the free RHEL like distribution. They take the RHEL source rpms and rebadge it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by x[dmitri] View Post
    remote access: use ssh and screen. Screen gives you a detachable tty session.
    You can use VNC, but how many admin programs require a UI?

    SQL: MySql and postgress. MySql is popular, but postgress has be gaining popularity as it is supposed to be faster and more stable.

    If you have customers involved, you may want to see if they want to use RHEL (Redhat).
    This is not free, but some customers like to feeling that there is a publicly traded US company behind the distribution. RHEL is also the only distribution that can be certified for US government work (NSA has a distribution, but I doubt you would use it). I could be wrong here, but that is what we were told here at work.
    Centos is the free RHEL like distribution. They take the RHEL source rpms and rebadge it.
    Gay. Go fedora instead :) Redhat, but free. But if they are stuck on debian, im not sure why they wouldnt want ubuntu..? Did they give any good reasons, or just we like debian end of story?

    Honestly, they will all work, it really comes down to distribution preference and which package manager you prefer... yast, rpm, apt, etc....
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    Well, with a few msn's to jb I got it all setup np... still have dns'ing to do and data to xfer over but I don't expect any problems

    It actually shocks the hell out of me how easy it was... aptitude made all the installs nutty easy. Anything not in my library i added and apt-get'ed the install. The configuration is done entirely by text documents all the way through... then you just reboot the service and all works well.

    If you know what to ask google, then you can manage any sort of Windows -> Linux, or vice versa, conversion.
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    One thing I am no certain of is whether I am gleaning the full benefit from all teh hardware I put into this box.... I just can't be certain that debian is capable of utilizing it all.
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    2. 1.33V
    3. Thermalright Rev C. - idle @ 35c, burn-in @ 72c

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    Getting this error ever since I tried to install Plesk :(... can't initiate any apt command without encountering this error. I guess it needs to clear this out of it's queue before it can do anything else.

    But the error doesnt google a damn thing... thoughts?

    ERROR while trying to Empty service name for superserverSTART qmail-8.3.0-debian4.0.build83071218.20 installing (deb action: configure) AT Thu Sep 17 22:42:36 MDT 2009
    dpkg action:
    Warning!
    Unable to determine the host or domain name of your computer.
    Setting it to localhost.localdomain

    ===> Installing Qmail server
    using invoke-rc.d
    WARNING!
    Some problems occured when syslog restart, check it after installation/upgrade complete

    Continue...

    Configuring Qmail...
    Trying to unregister service /var/qmail/bin/sendmail... using /usr/sbin/update-rc.d
    Trying to comment out comsat service record from /etc/inetd.conf... there is no comsat service record in /etc/inetd.conf
    Trying to generate SSL certificates for TLS sessions... done
    Trying to register service qmail... using /usr/sbin/update-rc.d
    done
    Trying to stop Qmail services... done

    ERROR while trying to Empty service name for superserver

    Aborting...

    STOP qmail-8.3.0-debian4.0.build83071218.20 installing (deb action: configure) AT Thu Sep 17 22:42:38 MDT 2009
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    plesk even supported on deb5 lenny yet ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    plesk even supported on deb5 lenny yet ?
    No, hense the issues.

    I fixed it but it was a good 2-3 hours of reading to find the fix.
    Computer Specs:
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    1. BCLK @ 200
    2. 1.33V
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    ASUS P6T V2 Deluxe
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    2x OCZ 60GB SSD @ RAID 0 (Stripe)
    Silverstone TJ10

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